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those people who draw and/or get off on anthropomorphized cartoon animals? I find that inclination mysteriously but intensely disgusting. It's right up there with fat-fetishism, but at least I understand why fat-fetishism is objectively wrong (pluralism be damned -- obesity is unhealthy), whereas these drawings of big-boobed wolves (for crying the fuck out loud) are inexplicably repulsive to me.

Date: 2007-10-23 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mandy-moon.livejournal.com
I thought they fell under the "furry" umbrella term because they like things that look like plush or cartoon animals.

I think it's revolting to most people because we perceive it as bordering both on bestiality and pedophilia.

Children like cartoon animals, and to portray cartoon animals in a sexual way skirts too close for comfort for most. As a friend of mine said "it's like wanting to fuck Ranger Rick."

Gross.


Ick ick ick.

Date: 2007-10-23 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lepidosiren.livejournal.com
I think it's revolting to most people because we perceive it as bordering both on bestiality and pedophilia.

You know, I was thinking maybe that was it.

Date: 2007-10-23 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] developer.livejournal.com
I dunno, I think there is a pretty big leap between drawing sexy teddy bears, wearing a teddy bear outfit for sex, and then humping the family dog.

Maybe that is just me...

Date: 2007-10-23 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lepidosiren.livejournal.com
Hence the "perceive" part.

Date: 2007-10-23 09:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] latemodel.livejournal.com
For me, it's partly because of the people I associate with it. The way that certain people (who shall remain unnamed) talk about sexuality makes me queasy. Those people are very, very often into fur. And BDSM, and sf, and polyamory. So when I think of fur, I think of [lj username redacted], and of the way they construct their sexuality. And having sex with a bleeding, gangrenous post-amputation stump starts sounding pleasantly cleansing.

It could also just be because I'm a hater, though.

Date: 2007-10-23 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lepidosiren.livejournal.com
partly because of the people I associate with it

Crossed my mind, but that aspect of my distaste for the affinity is a chicken-and-egg situation.

Date: 2007-10-24 04:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bottleimp.livejournal.com
Oh, my. That is provocative.

For the record, I don't particularly care about the "fat fetish" folks either, except when they get into "erotic feeding." Don't google it, it will make you unhappy.
Deliberately fucking up someone's health and then walking away is seven kinds of wrong.

Date: 2007-10-24 06:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] latemodel.livejournal.com
Me, I think the annoying people came first. Some people rub me the wrong way, and it doesn't matter what they're talking about. The best example of this is when people elicit that response by talking about things I like.

Date: 2007-10-24 03:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jhimm.livejournal.com
i've had more good kinks ruined
by the fact that some people suck at life
than i care to count
(anything involving fur isn't one of them, for the record).

Date: 2007-10-24 12:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deadwinter.livejournal.com
And BDSM, and sf, and polyamory

I...ok, I had no idea you held such strong and apparently negative opinions about these lifestyle choices.

Even though I have no idea who you are specifically talking about..it's a tad disheartening.

Date: 2007-10-24 02:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lepidosiren.livejournal.com
I think he meant to say that people who like to doink teddy bears are often into "everything else" all at once, and that such a psychological mixture yields a person he finds unpleasant. I'm putting words in his mouth, though.

Date: 2007-10-24 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] latemodel.livejournal.com
What [livejournal.com profile] lepidosiren said. I meant that there are people who are into all of these things, and loud. With fur, I have only negative associations. With polyamory, or BDSM, I have lots of exposure, and not only from a small handful of people who I see as sad sacks. I'm hardly one to bitch about either of those things!

For some reason, with fur, I associate it more strongly with the bad actors.

Date: 2007-10-24 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] latemodel.livejournal.com
You know, this is not the first time I've offended someone I like with a rant like this. Fwiw, I'm not talking about you, or your friends. I'm talking about the people who bother me, regardless of what they're talking about; they elicit that response when they're talking about things I like. They're the people who provide fodder for [livejournal.com profile] dot_poly_snark. They're the people who make me hate goth clubs, when goth clubs are one of my favorite places on the planet.

Date: 2007-10-24 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deadwinter.livejournal.com
I wasn't offended, as such. And I know you didn't mean me, since I have yet to go after you or J. with so much as a fur mitten :P.

I've basically been having a rough couple of weeks with what I perceive as self-righteousness and stupidity, and by the time I got to this post I was letting the chip on my shoulder do the reading, which is never good.

We are good. Trust me.

Now, the furry-lovin' spic who started the thread, though...

ew ew ew ewwww ew

Date: 2007-10-24 06:51 pm (UTC)

Date: 2007-10-23 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] popetom.livejournal.com
I believe that getting off on drawings of anthropomorphized animals is part and parcel for furry fetishism.

-PT

Date: 2007-10-24 12:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jhimm.livejournal.com
i tend to put them in the
"not my kink but at least they aren't skull fucking babies"
camp.

is it weird and gross?
yes.
is it dangerous, criminal or predatory?
no.

so i do my best to ignore it.

Date: 2007-10-24 03:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iscari0t.livejournal.com
Likewise, but I can still judge away. =)

Date: 2007-10-24 03:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jhimm.livejournal.com
so long as it is an 'ew gross' judging
and not a 'there oughta be a law' judging

have at.

Date: 2007-10-24 12:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bottleimp.livejournal.com
I am resisting the temptation to fill this comment with pics, easily acquired on teh Interwebs.

Anyway, I don't care. My squicky issues all revolve around consent. So if two adults are consenting to it, I don't care if they're playing at Wile E. Coyote ass-raping the Roadrunner.

Meep-MEEEEEEEEP!!!!

Date: 2007-10-24 01:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lepidosiren.livejournal.com
I'm assuming consent from the get-go; outside of that is an entirely different thread. If I were butt-raped by some dude in a zebra outfit, I think I could shoot him dead and lose no sleep on account of the killin' part.

Date: 2007-10-24 01:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bottleimp.livejournal.com
OTOH, the fact that you kinda enjoyed it would be keeping you up nights...

Date: 2007-10-24 02:10 am (UTC)

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